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'''The Saro-Aurean Crown Dispute''' is a legal dispute between the[[Aurea | Aurean Empire]] and the [[Sarovia|New Sarovian Empire]].
'''The Saro-Aurean Crown Dispute''' is a legal dispute between the[[Aurea | Aurean Empire]] and the [[Sarovia|New Sarovian Empire]] over Sarovia's sovereignty.


= History =
= History =
The dispute began in early September of [[Guilds and Leaders of 2020|2020]], when [[Constantine Vasa]] and Richard Vaughn were discussing a possible deal to hand over the titles and positions of the New Sarovian Empire to [[Kevlar Vaughn]]. The initial deal was in exchange to the titles and positions in the New Sarovian Empire, Kevlar Vaughn would erase Constantine from the [[Graal Military Community]] in an attempt to force himself to stay away from the game and not be remembered.
The dispute began in early September of [[Guilds and Leaders of 2020|2020]], when [[Constantine Vasa]] and Richard Vaughn were discussing a possible deal to hand over the titles and positions of the New Sarovian Empire to [[Kevlar Vaughn]]. The initial proposal from Constantine Vasa was to surrender numerous titles, positions and the New Sarovian Empire's overall sovereignty, in return for (1), Kevlar Vaughn's erasure of Constantine and his achievements from numerous public records of the [[Graal Military Community]], namely the Wiki, in an attempt to force himself to stay away from the game and not be remembered and (2), continued resistance against a faction of Constantine's disgruntled heirs, now known as Jacobite Sarovia in the current Sarovian Civil War.


The deal was brokered in Richard's guild house between Constantine's alternate account and Kevlar himself, where the elements of the deal were agreed on and hands were shook.
The deal was negotiated in Richard's guild house between Constantine, on an alternate account, and Kevlar, where half of Constantine's proposal was agreed to, with Kevlar expressing both his inability and lack of desire to partake in the erasure of any historical records. Regardless of this, Constantine still upheld his offer, petitioning that Kevlar at least "do his best to try the first request" and deal was then agreed upon, albeit Kevlar maintaining his refusal of the first request.


On the 20th of September, Kevlar gathered prominent members of Aurea and the GMC, and the transfer was completed in the presence of two Sarovian junior officers, who were created [https://sarovia.graalmilitary.com/wiki/Order_of_the_New_Sarovian_Empire Knights of the Order of the New Sarovian Empire], especially for the occasion. The [[File:Act of Abdication and Relinquishment.pdf|Act of Abdication and Relinquishment]] was published and all parties were satisfied.
On the 20th of September, Kevlar gathered prominent members GMC, and the transfer was completed in the presence of two Sarovian junior officers, who were created [https://sarovia.graalmilitary.com/wiki/Order_of_the_New_Sarovian_Empire Knights of the Order of the New Sarovian Empire], especially for the occasion. The [[File:Act of Abdication and Relinquishment.pdf|Act of Abdication and Relinquishment]] was written by Constantine to officialize the matter and all parties were considered satisfied.


In the event, Constantine spoke about the transfer and insulted both Aurea and [[Peter Rhodes]] and then promptly went offline. The deal was almost immediately broken in Constantine's eyes when Kevlar did not participate in his end of the deal, and this fight came to a climax when in November of 2020, Constantine returned to lead New Sarovia.
In the event, Constantine provided a quick speech reinforcing the validity of his forfeiture and then proceeded to launch poorly received insults against both Aurea and [[Peter Rhodes]] and before promptly going offline. As widely expected, the deal was breached in bad faith soon after, with Constantine citing Kevlar's inaction on his first condition as justification, although the request had been denied by Vaughn and the deal was still agreed to in spite of that.

Aside from the Act of Relinquishment, no other legally binding contract or deal was written and signed, and Constantine's reason for reneging on his declaration as well as what the terms of the backroom dealings that lead to this momentous event were, are now largely a matter of one's word against another's, unsupported by any surviving official evidence.


== Aurean Arguments ==
== Aurean Arguments ==

Revision as of 18:31, 7 January 2022

The Saro-Aurean Crown Dispute is a legal dispute between the Aurean Empire and the New Sarovian Empire over Sarovia's sovereignty.

History

The dispute began in early September of 2020, when Constantine Vasa and Richard Vaughn were discussing a possible deal to hand over the titles and positions of the New Sarovian Empire to Kevlar Vaughn. The initial proposal from Constantine Vasa was to surrender numerous titles, positions and the New Sarovian Empire's overall sovereignty, in return for (1), Kevlar Vaughn's erasure of Constantine and his achievements from numerous public records of the Graal Military Community, namely the Wiki, in an attempt to force himself to stay away from the game and not be remembered and (2), continued resistance against a faction of Constantine's disgruntled heirs, now known as Jacobite Sarovia in the current Sarovian Civil War.

The deal was negotiated in Richard's guild house between Constantine, on an alternate account, and Kevlar, where half of Constantine's proposal was agreed to, with Kevlar expressing both his inability and lack of desire to partake in the erasure of any historical records. Regardless of this, Constantine still upheld his offer, petitioning that Kevlar at least "do his best to try the first request" and deal was then agreed upon, albeit Kevlar maintaining his refusal of the first request.

On the 20th of September, Kevlar gathered prominent members GMC, and the transfer was completed in the presence of two Sarovian junior officers, who were created Knights of the Order of the New Sarovian Empire, especially for the occasion. The File:Act of Abdication and Relinquishment.pdf was written by Constantine to officialize the matter and all parties were considered satisfied.

In the event, Constantine provided a quick speech reinforcing the validity of his forfeiture and then proceeded to launch poorly received insults against both Aurea and Peter Rhodes and before promptly going offline. As widely expected, the deal was breached in bad faith soon after, with Constantine citing Kevlar's inaction on his first condition as justification, although the request had been denied by Vaughn and the deal was still agreed to in spite of that.

Aside from the Act of Relinquishment, no other legally binding contract or deal was written and signed, and Constantine's reason for reneging on his declaration as well as what the terms of the backroom dealings that lead to this momentous event were, are now largely a matter of one's word against another's, unsupported by any surviving official evidence.

Aurean Arguments

"This is an on-going scuffle over an undeniably real event and the subsequent attempts from certain parties to attempt to reverse or at least counter-balance what is arguably the biggest political blunder in GMC History. Hours of debate over this has already sullied just about every other public GMC space, but arguments have no place on the Wiki; a place for the immortalization of our history - not heated back-and-forth. With that said, I'll announce Aurea's intent to not take part in this joke of a page, so it can be left as what it truly is, one of the dozens of Sarovian attempts to cope with the fact they were foolish enough to sign over their sovereignty to an enemy nation. I will however urge anyone who takes it open themselves to read through this absolute meme, to take anything said with the appropriate grain of salt. As is the case with just about any piece of Sarovian-created reading, I can already glimpse numerous falsities and attempts at twisting narrative." - Kevlar Vaughn

Sarovian arguments

Some examples of Sarovian arguments.

The Sarovian argument for the dispute is twofold. The primary argument is in direct response to the Aurean argument - statements made by Kevlar immediately after the ceremony in an argument with former Sarovian Martius indicate that Constantine has the power to do whatever he wishes with Sarovian titles, including agreeing that Constantine could at any moment "strip titles from Aurea".

The second Sarovian argument for the dispute is that of a legal argument - that Constantine was neither King or Emperor of the New Sarovian Empire at the time (he had retired in May of the year, but did not even hold the titles in all of 2020) and such a transfer of titles was legally impossible. Likewise, the Sarovian constitution that was written in May of 2020 specifically stated that nobody could hold the Sarovian throne unless certain requirements were met, and Kevlar and his Aurean successors did not legally meet any requirements.